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	<title>Comments on: Leica X1 &amp; Leica M9 specs</title>
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		<title>By: will</title>
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		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When available for purchase in U.S.A.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When available for purchase in U.S.A.?</p>
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		<title>By: felsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>felsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anything with a Lieca badge made in Germany will be priced at least triple what it is actually worth&quot;

Actual value is what you can sell stuff for. Nothing else matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anything with a Lieca badge made in Germany will be priced at least triple what it is actually worth&#8221;</p>
<p>Actual value is what you can sell stuff for. Nothing else matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Zorro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything with a Lieca badge made in Germany will be priced at least triple what it is actually worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything with a Lieca badge made in Germany will be priced at least triple what it is actually worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Marki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the distance markings on the lens? Which leads to another question - why have a knurled lens ring if it&#039;s autofocus only?
This is a rudimentary mockup or a fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the distance markings on the lens? Which leads to another question &#8211; why have a knurled lens ring if it&#8217;s autofocus only?<br />
This is a rudimentary mockup or a fake.</p>
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		<title>By: Edi</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1869</link>
		<dc:creator>Edi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why DP1 instead of FourThirds?  Because the sensor is bigger!  Why should they go for a smaller sensor? :)

And why don&#039;t they go the FourThirds route?  Because a) it would be much harder to make the X1 something unique to Leica in these surroundings, b) they don&#039;t have the resources to maintain a third line of lenses (besides M and S), c) the FourThirds standard is dominated by Panasonic and Olympus and some of the decisions they made Leica never liked, and d) a rangefinder-like camera from Leica for less than a third of the price of an M9 and with exchangeable lenses would cannibalize their own M market.

I&#039;m surprised by the X1, but if they can pull it off with the quality one expects from Leica, I think this was a pretty smart move strategically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why DP1 instead of FourThirds?  Because the sensor is bigger!  Why should they go for a smaller sensor? <img src='http://leicarumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And why don&#8217;t they go the FourThirds route?  Because a) it would be much harder to make the X1 something unique to Leica in these surroundings, b) they don&#8217;t have the resources to maintain a third line of lenses (besides M and S), c) the FourThirds standard is dominated by Panasonic and Olympus and some of the decisions they made Leica never liked, and d) a rangefinder-like camera from Leica for less than a third of the price of an M9 and with exchangeable lenses would cannibalize their own M market.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised by the X1, but if they can pull it off with the quality one expects from Leica, I think this was a pretty smart move strategically.</p>
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		<title>By: DBM</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>DBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X1 is probably Leica&#039;s answer to SGMA DP1. But why??? They should have answered to M4/3 instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>X1 is probably Leica&#8217;s answer to SGMA DP1. But why??? They should have answered to M4/3 instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Edi</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1858</link>
		<dc:creator>Edi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should have been &quot;G11&quot; and not &quot;G1&quot; above unless that wasn&#039;t clear.

BTW, &quot;1234567&quot; is a serial number Leica themselves use in product shots.  Look for example at the fourth image in this flash movie:

  http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/m8/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should have been &#8220;G11&#8243; and not &#8220;G1&#8243; above unless that wasn&#8217;t clear.</p>
<p>BTW, &#8220;1234567&#8243; is a serial number Leica themselves use in product shots.  Look for example at the fourth image in this flash movie:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/m8/" rel="nofollow">http://us.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/m8/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The X1 picture looks like what&#039;s typically coming out of a CAD application, so it probably won&#039;t be how the final product will look like.  Still, if the specs we&#039;re seeing are real, then we might finally get the camera I described here

  http://weitz.de/camera.html

I just hope it will have a decent viewfinder, preferably built-in.

As to the guy who thinks a G11 will take &quot;better pictures&quot;: If you don&#039;t know what the difference between an APS-C sensor and the tiny thingy inside the G1 is, then, yes, at least for you it really won&#039;t matter which camera you&#039;ll use...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The X1 picture looks like what&#8217;s typically coming out of a CAD application, so it probably won&#8217;t be how the final product will look like.  Still, if the specs we&#8217;re seeing are real, then we might finally get the camera I described here</p>
<p>  <a href="http://weitz.de/camera.html" rel="nofollow">http://weitz.de/camera.html</a></p>
<p>I just hope it will have a decent viewfinder, preferably built-in.</p>
<p>As to the guy who thinks a G11 will take &#8220;better pictures&#8221;: If you don&#8217;t know what the difference between an APS-C sensor and the tiny thingy inside the G1 is, then, yes, at least for you it really won&#8217;t matter which camera you&#8217;ll use&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1848</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 08:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOl you are cracking me up, a point and shoot for more than 1500EUR... nobody would even consider buying such a thing even if it had 10 red dots. I bet even a Canon G11 takes better pictures and has a zoom lens ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOl you are cracking me up, a point and shoot for more than 1500EUR&#8230; nobody would even consider buying such a thing even if it had 10 red dots. I bet even a Canon G11 takes better pictures and has a zoom lens ^^</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1844</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The X1 has nothing to do with any Panasonic camera. Its made by Leica Camera. Wait to touch it. Dials like M, varnishing like Leica. Perfect camera. Pricing will be much lower than 2k EUR...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The X1 has nothing to do with any Panasonic camera. Its made by Leica Camera. Wait to touch it. Dials like M, varnishing like Leica. Perfect camera. Pricing will be much lower than 2k EUR&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a fixed focal lens at f/2.8 only would be very disappointing. The fixed normal lens of the Panasonic is f/1.7 !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a fixed focal lens at f/2.8 only would be very disappointing. The fixed normal lens of the Panasonic is f/1.7 !!</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody Special</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1825</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody Special</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leica will not use a Canon sensor. I&#039;m not quite convinced that  the &#039;X1&#039; is legit, or as pictured. Doesn&#039;t make much sense to have an APSC sensor with a fixed lens, at least one would expect it have interchangeable optics.

&#039;1234567&#039; on the lens is not a real serial number anyway, and the grip is also not likely to be real or they would not show it as a standard production piece - perhaps an accessory but not likely part of a starter kit, not to mention the M style strap lugs - on a fixed lens camera? We&#039;ll find out soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leica will not use a Canon sensor. I&#8217;m not quite convinced that  the &#8216;X1&#8242; is legit, or as pictured. Doesn&#8217;t make much sense to have an APSC sensor with a fixed lens, at least one would expect it have interchangeable optics.</p>
<p>&#8217;1234567&#8242; on the lens is not a real serial number anyway, and the grip is also not likely to be real or they would not show it as a standard production piece &#8211; perhaps an accessory but not likely part of a starter kit, not to mention the M style strap lugs &#8211; on a fixed lens camera? We&#8217;ll find out soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its point and shoot size, Sigma tried to put a x1.6 crop sensor in a PnS body and it didn&#039;t work... well.  And it seems Leica has had troubles with sensor technology in the past so I doubt they solved the &quot;Full Frame&quot; sensor in a PnS body.  

We&#039;ll see on the Ninth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its point and shoot size, Sigma tried to put a x1.6 crop sensor in a PnS body and it didn&#8217;t work&#8230; well.  And it seems Leica has had troubles with sensor technology in the past so I doubt they solved the &#8220;Full Frame&#8221; sensor in a PnS body.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see on the Ninth!</p>
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		<title>By: LR admin</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator>LR admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have reasons to believe that the Leica X1 picture is real - it matches the previous description I received of a second, more &quot;entry level&quot; camera with a big sensor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have reasons to believe that the Leica X1 picture is real &#8211; it matches the previous description I received of a second, more &#8220;entry level&#8221; camera with a big sensor.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will be  a digital version of the Leica CM.  Fixed lens.  A very high-end point and shoot with large dSLR sensor and manual controls.   If it&#039;s APS-C and made in Germany as suggested I&#039;m thinking north of $1500.  Look at what the Digilux 2 originally cost and that was made by Panasonic in Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be  a digital version of the Leica CM.  Fixed lens.  A very high-end point and shoot with large dSLR sensor and manual controls.   If it&#8217;s APS-C and made in Germany as suggested I&#8217;m thinking north of $1500.  Look at what the Digilux 2 originally cost and that was made by Panasonic in Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: andres</title>
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		<dc:creator>andres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>x1 picture is fake....so could be the m9&#039;s picture but who cares we all know what leica rangefinders look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>x1 picture is fake&#8230;.so could be the m9&#8242;s picture but who cares we all know what leica rangefinders look like.</p>
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		<title>By: kam</title>
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		<dc:creator>kam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha you guys are delusional if you think the X1 will be as cheap as the GF1. Look how much more expensive the d-lux is over the lx3 and they are basically the same camera and take the same photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha you guys are delusional if you think the X1 will be as cheap as the GF1. Look how much more expensive the d-lux is over the lx3 and they are basically the same camera and take the same photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leica X1 = Digital Fed5b? :)

I hope that&#039;s just an early prototype.. and where&#039;s the optical VF? Throw us a frikkin bone here Leica. We know it&#039;s gonna cost an arm and a leg anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leica X1 = Digital Fed5b? <img src='http://leicarumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I hope that&#8217;s just an early prototype.. and where&#8217;s the optical VF? Throw us a frikkin bone here Leica. We know it&#8217;s gonna cost an arm and a leg anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
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		<dc:creator>matteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t be a CMOS sensor. Those type isn&#039;t suitable for a digital RF &#039;cause it reacts very bad at high incidence light angles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t be a CMOS sensor. Those type isn&#8217;t suitable for a digital RF &#8217;cause it reacts very bad at high incidence light angles.</p>
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		<title>By: Verners</title>
		<link>http://leicarumors.com/2009/09/02/leica-x1-leica-m9-specs.aspx/comment-page-1/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>Verners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if thats the Canon 7D sensor, then its a 1.6x aps-c sized sensor, which would be a downgrade to the M8 imo. And the canon sensor is made by canon as much as i red...

Still hoping it will be the 5d mk2 sensor, but will be lucky if it really is a full frame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if thats the Canon 7D sensor, then its a 1.6x aps-c sized sensor, which would be a downgrade to the M8 imo. And the canon sensor is made by canon as much as i red&#8230;</p>
<p>Still hoping it will be the 5d mk2 sensor, but will be lucky if it really is a full frame&#8230;</p>
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