The latest Leica headlines

I had limited Internet access in the past few days. Here is a quick update of the latest Leica related news:

Leica Summilux-M 24mm f/1.4 ASPH
Leica Super-Elmar-M 18mm f/3.8 ASPH
Leica Elmar-M 24mm f/3.8 ASPH
Leica Summicron-M 28mm f/2.0
Leica Elmarit-M 28mm f/2.8 ASPH
Leica Summarit-M 35mm f/2.5
Leica Summicron-M 50mm f/2.0
Leica Summarit-M 50mm f/2.5
Leica Summarit-M 75mm f/2.5
Leica Summarit-M 90mm f/2.5
Leica Summicron-M 35mm f/2.0 ASPH - Black
Leica Summicron-M 35mm f/2.0 ASPH - Silver

I will still be traveling for the next few weeks and will have limited Internet connection. If you see an interesting Leica related topic that I missed in my coverage, drop me a line.

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  • Bryan Campbell

    At least we know an M10 is actually coming. I suspect Leica will hit a homerun this time and give everyone what they’ve been asking for (and some things they haven’t been asking for) I’m looking forward to improved dynamic range, much better iso (I suspect a modern CMOS will easily give us 4 stops better ISO than the M9 CCD), and higher megapixels to really take advantage of Leica’s amazing glass.

    My only concerns is a pretty significant one. The CCD of the M8 and M9 give the files a unique look that I actually prefer over CMOS, especially at low iso 160-320.

    • Daryl

      Bryan – the change from ccd to cmos is also my concern, I find that pixels from ccd including Leica and Phase One have qualities that I don’t find with cmos cameras including the fantastic D800E. My other concern is the price of this new camera….. admin any ideas or rumors on price?

      • Nobody Special

        It’s probably safe to say that it will be more than an M9; around $9K or more, if it has more features chances are it will be higher in price. They’ve never really dropped prices on a new M body that I know of at least.

        Too, it seems as Daniels hinted at, that Leica is going to be expensive by their choice.

        • Daryl

          Nikon is putting downward pressure on the high end with their latest offerings, but I don’t think this will effect Leica as much as the Japanese offerings. $9k sounds likely but will be a bitter pill to swallow for a short-lived technology that digital cameras have become.

          • Nobody Special

            I agree completely. I’ve always used them even though I found/find them more and more confining as a ‘complete’ camera or system. My film M’s have proven to be limiting – great for an emergency back-up – but as you say, with the digital short life justifying such a digital beast is, to me, well, a luxury.

            Practically speaking, a DSLR such as a D800e (or even an F6) w/o the battery grip is just more versatile. Even w/o the Leica glass, but then again, R glass can be used w/adapter.

        • http://leicarumors.com LR admin

          That was my impression as well, future price increases should not be a surprise. The question is how long can they do it without loosing sales/customers?

      • http://leicarumors.com LR admin

        No rumors, but my guess is at least $9k for the M10. Don’t be surprised if it goes even above $10k. Leica has made it clear that they are not shy at raising their prices. With Leica you are paying for a luxury item, not for technology. If you want technology, get the D800E – there is nothing like it on the market today.

  • Nobody Special

    As per Daniels’ comment about film use(rs)…..

    “Technically speaking, from a quality point of view, there is no real reason to stick with film. Especially if you take an M Monochrom which is producing beautiful black-and-white pictures, one of the last domains of film, black-and-white film. There is not really a technical reason to shoot film. But an M Monochrom doesn’t smell film and doesn’t give you the limitation of having only 36 frames in your camera. There are still some emotional reasons why to use film.”

    The reason many users (including myself) of film like it is because; It’s a DIFFERENT ART-FORM, then there’s it’s LOOK for one. Then there is the VERY obvious reason; Film is MORE STABLE OVER A LONG, LONG TIME. As is transparency film.

    Okay, the other reason many use film is because it gives CONTROL over the printing process as well – even though not everyone prints on their own – the capability exists. Now, if he knows how long the special Leica prints he mentions users of the M9m can have printed will be a stable storage medium, okay, that’s something.

    His comments sound more like a sales pitch, and that’s ultimately his job. I hope that film will always be available for those of us who appreciate the importance of choice and even more so, the storage longevity of film. By the way, I’m NOT saying film is ‘better than digital’, or interested in arguments/debates about that – both have their place.

  • camrageekslayer

    Why is the Barnack Award waiting till July 3rd to announce the 10 finalists? Anyone have an idea? Maybe so the winners could have the spotlight?

  • george

    Two things concern me, one is 200 more stores that need stocked with equipment. Would that be equipment that is already in very short supply. I have been waiting for a lens on backorder since September.

    The second thing is cost. Other camera manufacturers are catching up in the camera body/sensor department, and making them work with M lenses. Luxury may be nice, but professionals using them created the desire for the camera . I think in this case Luxury means “I have what professionals have”. “Some of the greatest images in the world were create with this type of camera” . My M9 does the job, and 9 or 10 thousand for a M10 is a little out of reason. There are almost 150 members in my camera club, most use Nikon and Canon because their seminar instructors use them or they see them used by sports photographers and reporters, most of the members can afford almost anything, being retired doctors and lawyers, and with many having the most expensive glass offered.

    The M9 creates beautiful images up to 5 feet wide, even $8K is pushing the limit when there is no need for another camera. No market is beyond over pricing.

    The up side, if prices skyrocket, I can sell off my gear and retire. Keep in mind though, I have seen many collectable markets go way up, then a flood of merchandise is released from basement and attic storage, and then it collapses never to recover in value.

    • Nobody Special

      One important thing about large print sizes; ultimately, it’s the viewing distance that makes the difference, especially with LARGE prints. Detail can be relative between different cameras/glass with prints of the same size viewed at the same distance – it’s not always noticeable – too, the subject matter and or composition also can make fine sharpness irrelevent.

      So sometimes Leica glass can be overkill or not even necessary – it still may be excellent but there are alternatives.

    • Daryl

      George – There appears to be more Leica lenses coming to market recently, and the new factory will add capacity. The increase number of stores may not add as much as thought. The Samy’s in Los Angeles is rumored to be putting in a Leica store, currently they sell Leica, so it will be rebranded as a Leica Store. Other stores have done this, adding the decor that Leica has prescribed to be called a Leica Store.

      What you say about the M9 and it’s capabilities for prints may just keep Leica M10 sales from reaching the same numbers as the M8/M9. If too expensive the customer/photographer may decide to purchase an alternate item such as a lens (or nothing) and continue using the excellent camera they currently own. If we read between the lines of the interview (pure conjecture), Leica may add more M bodies to the line. Placing the Kodak 18mp sensor in a reworked body (M9.2) and selling it for a lower price than the new M10 might invigorate sales further and add to demand justifying the increased manufacturing capabilities.

  • John lee

    I agree. I would not be surprised if the M9 does stay in production. It would make sense from a pricing and market standpoint. It also might give buyers a sense of choice. It would be nice to compare the two side by side.

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