First set of images taken with the new Leica M available online

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Leica Camera posted on their blog several images taken with the new Leica M ($6,950) by Jean Gaumy in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan. On Facebook Leica confirmed that those images were taken with the new M:

"The blog will follow Jean Gaumy as he revisits Kyrgyzstan on a photographic journey with the new Leica M. In episode 1, he spends a day in Bishkek, the capital"

 

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  • Me

    The pictures looks really bad. They looks like more like from iPhone than Leica Camera… :(

  • Flo

    is he using the summicron 28 and the summilux 35?

  • unlightening

    I don’t understand how someone with such amazing camera hardware can take such soulless, careless, boring, snapshots. Put some friggin’ effort into it! I take better photos with my iPhone.

    I have one of the new Leica M’s on pre-order too. I gaurantee i’ll be the only photographer getting a different perspective in my photos than the typical stand-up-straight-and-push-button-at-random-object leica photographers that are out there today.

    Such a poor way to showcase your brand with this kind of representation.

    • Ivan

      I am not disagreeing with the flatness of the pictures – but I don’t think I’d go as far as to say that you ‘guarantee that (you’ll) be the only photographer getting a different perspective.’ There’s many talented photographers doing extraordinary work with a variety of setups.

      I’m not very familiar with Jean Gaumy, but a cursory glance at his Magnum portfolio shows some very strong images: http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=MAGO31_10_VForm&ERID=24KL53ZFL3

      I also liked his sample shots in the video more compared to the ones highlighted on the page.

      It’s not known what aperture or post-processing (if any) Jean did with the images. I can’t discern any extended dynamic range. I also am of the thought that the photographer makes the images and the camera (and processing) can help with the overall ‘feel’ of an image.

      I’m looking forward to more samples. I have an aging M8 waiting for a backup or replacement.

      unlightening – here’s hoping that when your new M arrives, you’ll be able to put together some stunning images. Best of luck.

      • unlightening

        i was being mostly facetious, but to primarily make my point. I see far too many “snapshots” from M shooters and its kind of surprising and sad because it’s like buying a ferrari, and using it only to go pick up groceries.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Kennedy/729155313 Daniel Kennedy

          Sorry, I missed the .au
          http://www.aeos-photo.com.au/gallery

          • unlightening

            Your gallery and work is very impressive. My point was not about individuals like yourself though, so don’t direct my comments in that way or take them personally.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Kennedy/729155313 Daniel Kennedy

            You only clarified when taken to task, so I ask again would you please link us to your portfolio?

          • FAUSTER

            Maybe it’s somewhat less than ethical to post it for him. But here it is unlightening’s website for those interested: http://www.nicholasputzphoto.com/blog/

            Make of it what you will.

          • http://www.facebook.com/omar.barcenas Omar Barcenas-Photography

            just goes to show you can’t take everyone on these forums seriously.

          • Robert

            Very nice work on your site, Daniel. Great landscapes!

            I think the overriding point here is that it’s the photographer that makes (or breaks) the photograph, not the camera.

          • Michael

            Daniel – stunning work :)
            Love the website design too – did you do it yourself?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Kennedy/729155313 Daniel Kennedy

            Thanks Michael. My friend Cyrus Eftos did it, sadly we’ve lost touch.

    • genotypewriter

      I don’t dislike those snaps, they are way above what you find on flickr under “leica m9″. Try that, they are so bad they are funny :)

      • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

        Always nice to see fans… just wish they were as good with the aliases

  • JB

    I am not sure what pisses me off more – the company that gives the World titanium hermes editions trying so hard to identify itself with politically correct and socially responsible photojournalism, or M. Gaumy’s apparent regret that the Kyrgyz are being corrupted a global ‘culture of money’ as he snaps them with a camera costing more than most of them can realistically hope to save in a lifetime.

    • Steve Stevenson

      I was just going to say that this “anti capitalist” Jean Gaumy character needs to put down his $7k+ camera, and be more like the proles and use a Nikon or Canon.

      • Tod

        And who said it’s anti capitalist ?
        He spoke about the change of mores in this country.

    • Street

      Please, a typical presscamera like a Canon 1dx costs the same. Whats your problem?

  • Ertugrul Kilic

    The single photos between movie and contact sheet captured with Leica M9.

    Only the photos located on grey contact sheet taken with new Leica M (Type 240). Their aperture values are f/13 & f/16, captured at 25th September 2012, almost four months ago. It’s better to judge the new Leica M after official release of sample photos, with new firmware etc.

  • tertius_decimus

    Hey, mr. Gaumy, you don’t need that Leica gear. Get a p&s instead.

  • WTF

    Why are we looking at M9 shots half of year old?!

  • Bob Lake

    Why camera modle is M9 in these photo’s Exif?

  • Ted

    I like this kind of reportage with a mixture of stills, videos and talking. That is really interesting.

    • genotypewriter

      Do you? That’s nice.

      • exactly

        This kind of comment is exactly why people don’t like you. It doesn’t matter how good you are, what knowledge you have or what you have to share. If you act like a jerk, you are a jerk and people will treat you like a jerk. Now, you may feel heroic, like you against the whole world, the genius that’s not understood, even getting sexual pleasure out of it, but in the end you’ll end up what you act like. What I don’t understand is where the rage is from? Australia is a brilliant place, full of nice people and surroundings…

        Try to be nice to people, and they’ll like you, maybe even listen to you. Stop being the bully hiding behind the protection of internet.

        • tested

          The “protection of the internet” works for those who choose to remain Anonymous. Letting the world know that you are a Colombo Sri Lanken working in computer science, teaching and doing research in AI and machine-learning at the University of Melbourne is hardly protecting ones self. Genotypewriter…..you may want to relax your attitude….there are lots of unstable people on the internet.

          • lenscap

            you have to give him credit for trying so hard tho, i can only imagine how sad his real life is.

          • Bollox

            Well Geno is not very competent at what he does, but this place is so full of halfwits that he shines like a star.

  • Regular

    Out of topic. : did Leica increase the price for 6-bit coding in Europe? How much is it? Is there a actual press release on Leica’s site? Thanks.

  • J Henrick

    I dont get it. Images are so flat.

  • Indecisive Moments

    Interesting if most of these images are from the M9. Would show that its just as possible to get flat images from the CCD sensor as it might be from the new CMOS M sensor.

    I am new to Leica and have pre ordered an M because I want to try the compactness and simplicity of a rangefinder. I am interested to see if how it will affect the way I shoot.

    I would just get the M9 but am accustomed to having good battery life and iso performance, so although I have seen some amazing M9 images, I really want all of that plus the promise held by the M.

    My newbie thoughts and expectations on Leica are that its really going to be the superior lenses that will make the difference to image quality rather than the sensor technology. All the talk of Leica pop and the CCD sensor magic worries me, but I’m actually heartened if what everyone says are bad M images are actually just M9 images shot in flat lighting.

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

      “My newbie thoughts and expectations on Leica are that its really going to be the superior lenses that will make the difference to image quality rather than the sensor technology.”

      Some times it can be the sensor. The M9 sensor had a serious flaw which meant even the best of lenses would create terrible looking fringes even when stopped down (see large versions of the images below):

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/thealfee/7070808553
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/haykal/4148285774
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/canonmonster/5607741070

      I wouldn’t get caught up in this CCD vs. CMOS c*ap… if you look closely, people who talk about that stuff are all just bitter Leica buyers.

      • Indecisive Moments

        Thanks for your reassurance genotypewriter :) So how did Leica sort the fringing – via a firmware update?

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          I don’t know whether they have fixed it. Ordinary microlenses on digital sensors in general are responsible for this sort of fringing… M9′s microlenses are offset and hence the radial fringing you see in most of those examples. If off-set microlenses are used in the new M, the chances are things wouldn’t change much.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Kennedy/729155313 Daniel Kennedy

            The new M does NOT have any kind of offset or shifted pattern to the microlenses.

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            It’s a good start… but nothing comes for free. I have a feeling they’re fixing the light loss in software (firmware) because the new images come from a better sensor that can be pushed, unlike the naturally struggling M9 sensor. Fixing “vignetting” in software is nothing new but the sort of vignetting we’ll see with full frame rangefinders and their lenses is more than what you get on DSLRs. So… I expect to see fairly noisy corners.

          • georgeforeman

            A quick google of the username genotypewriter revealed a man who spends his life trolling photography forums, blogs and rumorsite, the comments he made provided hours of entertainment to any person with common sense.You’re arguing with an idiot of the worst kind, a pixel-peeper cry-baby with little knowledge about photography, the good news is that he’ll most certainly say something absurd/stupid back that will amuse you. Please refer to these links of his past comments to see what i mean:
            http://photorumors.com/2012/12/07/rip-zeiss-ikon-film-rangefinder-camera/
            http://photorumors.com/2013/01/10/canon-announced-two-new-prime-cinema-lenses/
            http://photorumors.com/2013/01/20/what-else-is-new-weekend-digest-26/

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            “cry-baby with little knowledge about photography”

            http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/tags/articles
            http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com
            http://www.flickr.com/people/genotypewriter

            And just like that… your credibility goes down the drain LOL

          • Ted

            Well you put a lot of time into writing stuff, but that does not make you an expert. Try studying a little more.

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            “Try studying a little more”

            How cute. Try harder…

          • tested

            Man you come off as a real douche

          • James

            douche is an understatement

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            Gotta be the best at what one does ;)

          • Minos

            I’ve seen the links. Genotypewriter is basically a guenuine Keyboard warrior from the internet age. xD

          • Nick

            it’s funny because he’s doing everything he can to discredit himself and look like a fool

          • anti genotypewriter

            Get the hint genotypewriter, everyone HATES you! I do!

          • NikonEngineer

            Everyone’s dissing you, but I’ll give you some credit for pixel peeping, your the god of technical camera geeks (its all about technicalities for these peeps, not art, because art can be done with the shittiest lenses and camera, but those who want the best engineering would like what you’re doing, pointing out obvious flaws in design). Any engineer will like you, while liberal arts major will not. you go son.

          • Daniel Kennedy

            I wouldn’t say he’s even a moderate technical camera geek. Especially when it comes to Leica. The ‘blooming’ he refers to is detailed in Optics by Eugene Hecht and is the result of light bending around an object of high contrast and slightly out of the plane of focus. The Noctilux has field curvature (like most ultra-fast glass) and as such will produce this to a visible degree in certain scenes on a full-frame sensor unless stopped down CONSIDERABLY and even then it could show up in certain scenes.
            Also, he knows very little about the new M, the corners aren’t pushed harder than the corrections in the M9, the microlens SHAPE (not offset) is drastically different and the depth of the photosite entry from the microlenses has been drastically reduced. This compensates for the non-offset microlenses and also avoids the red shift with acute incident angles when shooting a wide angle lens with an exit pupil near to the sensor.

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            ” is the result of light bending around an object of high contrast”

            Haven’t you ever taken a photo before? Because if you have, you’d know that it alone can’t create what’s demonstrated there to that scale.

            “The Noctilux has field curvature (like most ultra-fast glass) and as such will produce this to a visible degree in certain scenes on a full-frame sensor”

            ROFL… take a single element lens with effectively only field curvature and see if it does that. The Noctilux is not the only lens that has field curvature… and I’m pretty sure you’re going by the f/1 Noctilux and not the f/0.95 model. If you’re so familar with these ones can you tell which one has more field curvature?

            All your arguments indicate you have very little experience with shooting, lenses and just some abstract knowledge you’ve picked up from Wikipedia or some place.

            “he knows very little about the new M, the corners aren’t pushed harder than the corrections in the M9″

            Never claimed to do so… if you can read, scroll up and try again. The pushing was only a speculation… and there’s nothing wrong with speculation as long as it’s indicated. Also, the new microlens design isn’t proof that the corners won’t pushed harder… logic is not really your thing, is it? Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re an Erwin Puts reader.

          • Daniel Kennedy

            I am in a position through my employment to know a lot more about the new M than you might think. Since I am not posting on behalf of my employer I’ll leave the specifics out of it.

            I have shot extensively with the M9, I have a degree in photographic theory and have worked as a professional in the industry prior to my current role. I linked to my portfolio earlier on if you care to scroll up.

            A single lens element can cause both longitudinal and lateral chromatic aberration, have a read of this well referenced article to gain better understanding of chromatic aberration http://toothwalker.org/optics/chromatic.html

            I have other RAW files from the typ240 that aren’t posted here and are taken with wide angles and fast lenses that have a closer exit pupil. You will see when tests are revealed that the new microlens design and ‘flat’ architecture result in far less noise due to the lesser amount of correction necessary in the corners.

            As for the 0.95 vs the 1.0, both lenses have field curvature but the ASPH 0.95 has notably less. Leica designs their fast rangefinder lenses with a small degree of field curvature, if you’re familiar with the rangefinder technique you would understand the reasoning.

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            “I have a degree in photographic theory”

            ROFL… you have a degree in knock-knock jokes… sorry.

            “A single lens element can cause both longitudinal and lateral chromatic aberration”

            Well I learn something new everyday… here I was thinking doublets and triplets were created because they sound cool and feel heavy.

            ” if you’re familiar with the rangefinder technique you would understand the reasoning.”

            I do actually… and pretty good at focusing with them too:
            http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/6140888756/

            And who the hell is “Mantri”?

          • Daniel Kennedy

            I am in a position through my employment to know a lot more about the new M than you might think. Since I am not posting on behalf of my employer I’ll leave the specifics out of it.

            I have shot extensively with the M9, I have a degree in photographic theory and have worked as a professional in the industry prior to my current role. I linked to my portfolio earlier on if you care to scroll up.

            A single lens element can cause both longitudinal and lateral chromatic aberration, have a read of this well referenced article to gain better understanding of chromatic aberration http://toothwalker.org/optics/chromatic.html

            I have other RAW files from the typ240 that aren’t posted here and are taken with wide angles and fast lenses that have a closer exit pupil. You will see when tests are revealed that the new microlens design and ‘flat’ architecture result in far less noise due to the lesser amount of correction necessary in the corners.

            As for the 0.95 vs the 1.0, both lenses have field curvature but the ASPH 0.95 has notably less. Leica designs their fast rangefinder lenses with a small degree of field curvature, if you’re familiar with the rangefinder technique you would understand the reasoning.

          • Greg Weight

            Classic case of academic superiority complex. Yawn. Come back if you ever take a photo of influence. Or even if you ever learn how to compose a shot with any sense of purpose, that would be a great start.

          • anti genotypewriter

            I agree with you! genotypewriter is not worth our time!

      • Regular

        Once again some slander from you. But you forgot to mention 2 photos out of 3 you picked are shot with the Noctilux which is known to be CA prone, and you would get the same on a Nex.
        I don’t see any CA fringing in your 3rd example.

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          Yes, the Noctilux but the second shot is taken at f/2. The Noctilux is sharp stopped down. Honestly, I don’t know how it performs on a Nex and frankly I don’t care.

          The last one is on the 21/1.4 @ f/11… There’s a lot of CA (visible in the bottom left, for example)… far more than what you get from a Canon or Nikon, Samyang aside :)

          • Tod

            So basically…you show us the CA from…a Noctilux and a 21mm F1.4

            xD you are funny !

        • anti genotypewriter

          genotypewriter does it again! Trying to be a smart alec as usual!

      • anti genotypewriter

        Since you yourself said you’re a newbie — shut up!

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          This is hilarious… you and all your voters have the same reading disability. A shrink will help you get over the multiple personality disorder and then you’ll be back to being one incurable idiot again.

        • Indecisive Moments

          wow – actually i am the one who said i was a newbie. thanks for the welcome! even as a newbie i was able to observe that many were making wild judgements regarding the new M based on photos that were actually shot with their beloved m9. i am actually pretty shocked with the pettiness of the ‘community’ here. i’m looking forward to see what a change in shooting technique will do to my photography but haters like you are a real disappointment. it would be great to see a respectful sharing of opinion and information here rather than reading such tripe and venom from a band of bullies. I know everyone can’t be like you. respect to the silent majority who are just eager to read about the new M.

  • D800Guy

    Composition FAIL…and those flat colours…

  • jc

    it’s a shame ! This is not a Leica M, it’s a monster. Soon it will become an autofocus camera, they do not understand what they are doing.

    Maybe some rich deterred by the difficulty of using the machine M will buy it, but if this strategy continues, those who have made this brand will not buy it anymore.

    The M is a unique way to make a picture, a religion. They are doing an hybrid , an olympus Pen , they are understand nothing .

    shit!

    • Crap

      Rangefinders have inherent technical problems that have been fixed in marketing, turning them into a cult. Religion should be a little more serious than that, and it can actually save us from that bullshit.

      • jc

        i’m not sure to understand , but before to answer you , i would like to besure that you make pictures with a M ? Because all this people who comment on without use the camera , really piss me off

  • enerv

    Bientôt tous ces abrutis feront du M un appareil autofocus , faut vraiment ne jamais avoir fait de photo avec pour vouloir ça.
    Ca me gonfle qu’ils se laissent influencer par un public qui n’y connait que dalle au risque de tuer un mythe.
    C’est pas un putain d’hybride , c’est pas un olympus pen à la con , acheter vous un nikon, merde aller vous branler avec 36 zones de mise au point , des ecrans pivotants , mais laissez vivre cet appareil , ou au moins essayer de faire de la photo avec avant de vouloir le changer , bande d’abrutis

  • reallywanttolikeit

    Oh man, really? Those photos were, how should I put it, vacation shots that could have been taken with any camera.

  • reallywanttolikeit

    The photo of that ballet dancer trying to hold the pose then falling over with her friends laughing…well, if he got her after she fell and her friends were laughing, well, that would have been a great picture.

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