Leica M10 press photos and official specifications leaked in Japan


Here are the official press photos and translated specifications of the Leica M10 camera (detailed coverage of the announcement will start in few hours):

  • 24 Megapixel full size CMOS sensor specially developed for M 10
  • The latest generation image processor "LEICA MAESTRO II"
  • It can be set within ISO sensitivity range of ISO 100 ~ 50,000
  • 2 GB internal memory
  • High-speed continuous shooting of up to 5 frames per second
  • Equipped with ISO click dial on top cover
  • The depth of the top cover is only 33.75 mm and the slimest form among the M type digital cameras so far
  • In addition to raising the field of vision by 30%, raising the finder magnification to 0.73, the eye relief also expanded 50% widely
  • The operation part on the back of the camera has only three buttons: a joystick and "play", "live view", "menu"
  • Adopted "My Camera Menu" that allows you to register menu items freely from the main menu
  • Built-in Wi-Fi function
    • Direct transmission of RAW files in DNG format
    • It is possible to operate the Leica M10 remotely
  • Electronic viewfinder "Leica Bizofurex" compatible
  • Size: 139 × 80 × 38.5 mm
  • Weight: 660 g (including battery)
  • Color: Black Chrome, Silver Chrome
  • Domestic reservation start date: January 19
  • Domestic release date: February
  • Mass retailer price: 918,000 yen (tax included)


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  • abortabort

    OMG

  • abortabort

    Ok so definitely Black Chrome. Looks slim.

    But what is “Leica Bizofurex”? I’m guessing that is a new EVF, maybe same unit as the SL? That would be a huge deal IMO.

    • Mistral75

      Phonetic representation of Leica Visoflex.

  • abortabort

    What does “In addition to raising the field of vision by 30%, raising the finder magnification to 0.73, the eye relief also expanded 50% widely” mean in real world terms?

    • maralatho

      The body is thinner, so the viewfinder magnification is higher, and the eyepiece protrudes from the body a bit more.

      • abortabort

        But what does that mean for the view through the viewfinder? It says a 30% wider field of vision, but is also now 0.74x.

        • Diego Trueba

          As I undertand it, the eyepiece is larger and you won´t have to look into the outer lines when framing 28mm, which would feel more natural. Maybe there are framelines for 24mm and 21mm too!

          • abortabort

            That’s what I thought, but is it also more magnified? 30% wider is quite a lot, maybe 21 is possible.

          • Diego Trueba

            The magnification is independent from the eye piece and the size of the viewer itself. You can order today with different magnifications. Fortunately we will not have to wait for a long time. The first beta reports will be out this week, if not tomorrow.

          • abortabort

            But greater magnifications mean loss of wide angle usually. This appears to be both, high mag and wider FoV?

          • maralatho

            Maybe wider FOV to compensate for higher magnification?

          • maralatho

            (I hope the view is truly wider.)

          • maralatho

            Oooh. I hope that’s it.

    • bluemooncomplex

      Eye relief generally helps people with glasses as it has to do with the distance from the eyepiece to the eye. Hopefully this means I’ll be able to see the 35mm framelines better.

  • Florian

    i was wrong! its really that thin :)))

  • JFSG

    It was more fun a few months ago when everything was in the dark. The sensor is quite a disappointment, resolution is a big deal. Otherwise, it seems to have quite a few improvements. I’m not sure if I can order as soon as I did for the gh5. Are you guys who have M240 going to upgrade?

    • abortabort

      I may upgrade TO a M 240… but I don’t know, this does look really tempting.

      GH5 is a no brainer though.

    • asiafish

      I sold my M-E last week and bought an M-D.

      I may very well upgrade to this one, in a few years, after all of the dust settles. Most likely I’ll wait for the Monochrom or M-D version.

      Of course, I was saying just last month that I would stay with the M-E until the generation AFTER this new M10 and I honestly had no complaints with the M-E at all, just a case of GAS and a desire to spend some time without being able to chimp.

  • Byron

    Bizofurex = Visoflex

    • yes, probably 🙂

      • Byron

        Yes translated from Japanese katakana

  • Bo Dez
  • As close as I could get the size comparison. I aligned the back of the top plate and used the hot shoe as a size guide. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eabcd3336c55c110f1e197d005030f26653c8d343b60a540e99eeac4760b0a69.png.

    • Thanks, I will share this online

    • hmm.. interesting, but didn’t some people mention the mounting flange is what sticks out more on the m10 and that’s why the body may be a tiny bit thinner?.. It’s close, but I think the alignment of the front mounting flange between the m240 and the m10 are not exact.. might be a little lower on the m10, I think… it’s pretty darn close though.

      curious. don’t all cameras have a marking on the outside that indicates where the sensor or image plane is? A circle with a line though it? something like this Φ

      Can’t say I see or notice it at all on the M.. If it were visible, that might have been a good reference to line up from that symbol to the front of the mounting flange as that should be a fixed distance and consistent across both models.

      anyways.. the m10 is looking really good.

      • I measured my M2 with a caliper…32.5mm on the top deck excluding protrusions. My original estimate posted here days ago based on the 16mm standard hot shoe depth was 2X…or 32mm.

        The lens mount now protrudes 3.9mm clearing more room inside for the electronics…an idea I had posted in RFF upon seeing the ugly fat brick in a then new M8.

      • Yeah it finally seems they reached the heritage they have been looking for, but digital.

  • Maurice

    Looks like the most incredible M so far. Even though the surprise is now over. I think it will sell very well…

    • The surprise is always over at one point 🙂

  • D!RK

    Nice, clean look. I appreciate the slimmer design, the removal of the M sign on the front, the black wheel, the smaller red dot. Personally I never liked the hand-written Leica logo on the top plate of the MP versions. So aesthetically this is nicely executed. That is just about the looks. Personally I am fine with 24mp and I am curious about the higher ISO. Not that I would need 50k ISO but a cleaner push of shadows at 2500 or 3000. Overall a solid iteration. Still I am hoping for a parallel line, that is a bit more compact and uses an ELV. D!RK

    • Maurice

      That will never happen – to prevent sales of the SL and Q.

    • Diego Trueba

      I think there are more chances of getting a 35mm or 50mm Q. I also think that such machines would rather make consumers to get a second or third Leica instead of just settling with a one-camera-for-everything. Leica is a “best of breed” manufacturer. They will never compete in the broader market.

  • Sensor is that of the Q, I like that. Beautiful camera. What I don’t like is the price, but still..

    • I was actually expecting it to be more expensive.

      • Not so many reasons to be more expensive: sensor is that of Q, it has no video. A different viewfinder, but not a more expensive electronic one.
        918.000 yen (taxes included) is 7.580,51 euros.

        • abortabort

          Why would an electronic viewfinder be more expensive than a rangefinder?

          • Because a rangefinder is “simply” a tiny mirror. The evf must be bought from a third manufacturer. I might be wrong though. (Evf of SL is said to be really expensive)

          • Mistral75

            It’s (much) more than that. It’s a complicated mechanism coupled to the lens and its calibration is a delicate task.

          • I have a film rangefinder camera (Zeiss Ikon ZM), its viewfinder is a marvel, yes, even better than that on M3, I’d say. I know it’s a complicated mechanism, but I’d really like to know what’s its real cost compared to a good (that on Q) evf, or the cost of SL evf.

          • TS Sim

            The RF cost about USD700.

          • Where did you find it, if I may ask? I could not find anything on the web.

          • abortabort

            An EVF costs somewhere in the order of maybe $20-150.

          • abortabort

            The SL EVF is in the new GH5, a $2k mirrorless with lots of ‘other’ stuff, plus is being set at the same price point as the E-M1 II.

            They aren’t particularly complicated.

          • Do you know also the name of the Company that manufactures these evfs?

          • Brennan McKissick

            Epson.

          • Thank you!

          • abortabort

            Epson, Sony, probably LG and Samsung, Panasonic and some others.

          • Nick T. Mere
          • That’s the reason of the brackets I used 😉 I simplified too much, I know.
            I got my Ikon ZM rangefinder misalligned after a tourist bumped me in Venice, I know what’s inside because I saw an old photographer putting everything back in order (I was sweating but he knows how to deal with rangefinders).

    • maralatho

      How do we know it’s the Q sensor?

      • It’s one of the first things leaked. Same sensor of Q and SL, from Towerjazz if I’m not wrong.

        • maralatho

          Must be something different since the description says it was specially developed for the M10. Maybe that means it was based on the Q/SL sensor, but with a tweaked color rendition or something. Anyway, I’d be happy to have the Q/SL sensor!

    • eric

      the Q is a beautiful camera if you can live with the 28mm perspective.

      • I have ine 😉 And love it.

        • eric

          cool. so you dont find the 28mm too wide? i havent been that impressed by some of the images ive seen online from the Q, but i would think it takes great quality images. would you agree?

          • No, I got used to it using a RicohGR. It’s perfect for my work: I cover special events with actors, dancers, in dim light, and I can get near guests easily.
            Then I use it also for fun, doing street photography or carrying it with me when hiking.
            Check my review on my website, and there is a link to my instagram account: I know resolution is low on socials, but still.. 🙂

          • eric

            Cool. Yeah, i have a ricoh gr and love using it but was thinking of getting something that would produce higher quality photos, which led me to the Q. I will check out your review, thanks 🙂

  • John

    Just curious, is video something that can be added later on with a software update? Also, converting the Yen to USD makes it cost about $8k with taxes.

  • Hollis Duncan

    What do you do if you can’t afford Leica and you don’t like the XP2’s viewfinder: any cameras worth considering that are not M43 or Sony? Canon could you please make a digital AE-1 it would sell like hotcakes

    • Diego Trueba

      You can buy a used M9 and a Voigtländer Lens. I don´t think that would cost you more than 2500$. There is an Epson Rangefinder too.

      • Hollis Duncan

        Just had a bad experience buying 3 Canon 5Ds where all of the mirrors fell out within a day. So I swore off buying used digital (even though there’s a known prob w the 5D mirrors). But thanks for your recs I’ll look into the M9 but the Epson is out because I don’t want crop sensor.

        • Diego Trueba

          There is a lifetime warranty on the M9 sensors. Users usually take good care of the cameras too. Depending on where you live, service can be a dream or a nightmare. I will never ever sell mine.

          • Stevie Jay Elmm

            Hey Diego thanks for your information. I’m starting to feel even being a middle class min wage guy I rather save up my pennies and get a Leica for life over the continued dslr/mirrorless upgrades every 5 months. The only dslr I would want now is a Canon 1dx and that’s in Leica price range anyway. I think it’s why you are seeing more and more younger folks shooting film. For those not being pros I feel how far can you go with digital and spend whereas film gives you a new option for them.

          • asiafish

            Why would 1DX be the only DSLR you would want?

            The most Leica-like DSLR is the Nikon Df which costs new about what a very nice M9 costs used. Canon’s 6D and Nikon’s D610 both are full frame and decently made and cost about you would pay for a clean M8.

            Rangefinders don’t really compete with DSLRs and I would guess that most RF owners also have other non-RF cameras for when they need TTL viewing, autofocus or any of the other things that DSLRs do better.

          • Stevie Jay Elmm

            It was more of a comment about a high end pro dslr. My dslr currently is just a Canon rebel t6s and I love it. Takes great photos and good skin tones right out of camera. I use that and a kit lens. Film wise mostly use Nikon and Pentax. great old glass

          • eric

            young people shooting film is just a retro fad. way more young people post to snapchat than shoot film. i think some people like the soft look of film and its different for them from digital. but old digitals are still good, no reason to upgrade every year. nothing lasts forever though, even film cameras age, change is inevitable.

        • CHD

          So….are you really saying you bought (3) 5DS bodies and all of the mirrors ‘fell out within a day’???? I call bull$hit.

          • Hollis Duncan

            3 used 5D classics (12.8MP ftw!) and all mirrors fell out literally within 2-3 hours. Two were from Roberts Camera in Indy and one from KEH. Zero problems returning for refunds, but this naturally turned me off to buying digital secondhand.

          • CHD

            Ah…..5DS as in plural…not as in the new 5DS…gotcha:)
            Even still I think you got extremely unlucky. I owned a 5D and had it for years without a problem. That said…there was a known issue with the original 5D with a certain serial number run where there were mirror issues. At the time canon was relacing/fixing effected models. I haven’t heard of mirrors falling out of the 5D in almost 10 years lol.

            https://petapixel.com/2015/05/13/canon-warns-the-original-5d-may-suffer-from-mirror-separation/

            According to this article Canon is still fixing effected cameras for free…

    • Pablo

      The only problem is that the M9 is from 2009.. so almost 8 years now.

    • abortabort

      XP2’s VF is ok, but its no Leica. M 240 is getting cheaper, M9 and M-E is getting cheap too.

      What about a Nikon Df?

  • Need money for an M

    slimest M digital camera…
    not even 0.72x viewfinder but 0.73x…
    I’m so wet now…

  • qwertyuiop

    Overpriced toy for hipsters. Fuji GFX costs less, for god’s sake! But, I must admit, the m10 is beautiful.

    • Stevie Jay Elmm

      As someone who can’t afford this camera and def. not a hipster what makes Leica a hipster camera? I mean all the great photographers of the past that are held in high regard were Leica shooters or rangefinder shooters prior to slrs. Are they hipsers? I’m talking 35mm here not larger format. I just feel today online if a person enjoys photography and it’s not a giant Nikon or Canon they are all hipsters. In the 1990’s when I was a teen shooting film and others were using point and shoots and cheapo Sav-on (Pre CVS) store bought disposable cameras no one was dropping hipster on them. Most hipsters I see in the NYC area to me personally are more about annoying me with underground music no one heard of or craft beer that is in some special glass. I still shoot film and digital now of course and I wish I could afford a rangefinder. I really dig manual focus with them but my Nikon fm3a has a great split focus screen

      • maralatho

        In my experience, hipsters get used film Leicas and Fuji X-series cameras.

  • David V. Kutaliya

    In general, this is progress.

  • Licheus

    A new viewfinder! Hope it could match or beat the Zeiss Ikon finder which had been “class-leading” during the past decade.

  • _ _

    No worries on the price guys. Although expensive as usual, pretty much all the overseas brands rip us off here in Japan. The price of the M240 was a little higher when it came out. So it will be much cheaper than the conversion price for sure. I can almost guarantee it.

  • Brennan McKissick

    I thought the M262 was my dream digital Leica. Guess I was wrong. I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these. On paper, this seems like it hit almost everything people were asking for. Better sensor, slimmer, higher buffer, wifi, faster processor, etc. I really think they nailed it.

    • Need money for an M

      You have spoken my words!

    • sperdynamite
    • leica man

      I like the wifi, processor, and viewfinder magnification.
      If only they included video…

      • Brennan McKissick

        Eh, I couldn’t care less about video. Anything I would wanna video on the fly my 7 Plus would do better than an M. If I wanted to actually plan something for video I would pick something geared more towards video anyways.

        • CHD

          Totally agree. In two years with my M240 I’ve used video once. I don’t think people realize how difficult it is to take good footage with no IBIS and manual focus. For my purpose of just documenting the kids and family life my iPhone 7 is a million times easier.

          • Brennan McKissick

            I used it a few times on a tripod for filming and it was fine but nothing mind blowing. I’d much rather use something that’s geared towards video. And if you *really* want better quality from your phone I think there is some new video app for the iPhone that allows it to shoot Log.

    • Agree Brennan. I thought the 262 was the best M to date. Love mine. The M10’s best feature may be the new VF. I use auto ISO in manual mode so the ISO dial is of little use to me. The 2GB buffer and newer processor will make the M10 feel faster compared to the 262/stock 240.

      Curious to feel the camera depth in my hands.

      With better high ISO and potentially more DR out of the new sensor, the M10 appears to be a nice evolutionary upgrade rather than a revolutionary model.

      • Maurice

        I think the M´s revolution is its evolution. It´s like a Porsche 911: why changing an almost perfect design? Instead going back to the roots, leaving features out and simplifying it further.

      • Brennan McKissick

        Exactly, not every camera is going to be a revolutionary model. I think it is in some ways such as form factor but not in terms of IQ. I think the next iteration will really move it forward in terms of that.

        If I could, I’d purchase an M262 right now and be more than happy. I demo’d one for a month and loved every minute of it.

        • curious, does the difference in weight from a standard m240 noticeable?.. .. not to say it’s a cheaper build, far from it of course, but do you prefer the less substantial build of the m262?

          • Brennan McKissick

            It’s 100 grams less and it’s very noticeable. It feels a lot better in the hand imho because the lower weight but still fat. I would hardly call it “less substantial” it’s just a lighter weight material (aluminum).

          • understood. I’m sure it’s still substantial, just less so because it’s not all brass unlike the m240. thanks.

    • Louis Smith

      and no Silly Video features 😀

  • Ric Ricard

    My main concern for the M10 has been the size of the buffer. 2 Gig may not be enough for the camera my my tastes. The M240 has a terrible 1 Gig buffer that allows for only around 7 shots before the camera slows down. The thing no one talks about is that the buffer gets even worse at high ISO. The M240 gets really slow above ISO 1600. The M-P version of the camera has a 2 Gig buffer, but that camera also slows down dramatically at high ISO. So when I read that the M10 shoots “up to 5 fps” I’m worried that that means it does 5fps at low ISO, but shoots much slower at high ISO. That would be very disappoint to STILL not have an M camera that allows me to take a photo whenever I want.

    • Bo Dez

      Maybe the new processor will help with that though.

      • Ric Ricard

        Actually, I’m hoping there’s a 4 Gig version with Saffire screen and no red dot coming about year from now 😉 Should only cost about $1,000 more than this one, haha.

        On a serious note, I wonder why they don’t just release the black and white version of the M10 alongside this color version of the camera?

        • Brennan McKissick

          It brings more attention to the brand if they release them one at a time 6 months to a year apart. Keeps the camera in people’s minds longer and it gives time for people to flock to buy the “new” one instead of trying to sell multiple models at once.

        • eric

          spacing out product releases is just smart business. i dont really get the monochrome version though. nearly everyone uses filters or tweaks in lightroom. unless you really just dont like color photos, seems like a waste in my opinion. there are a lot of great film emulation presents that one could use instead.

  • Ric Ricard

    I wonder if M on the ISO dial means you use the Menu to set ISO. Might even allow for half steps of ISO settings (160, 320, etc).

    • Diego Trueba

      ISO dial has always (?) worked in half steps. The M setting might allow to set values higher than 6400.

      • Ric Ricard

        Makes sense. But I would assume that if you could set 6400 in the menu, you might as well be able to set other other ISOs like 100, 200, etc, from there as well.

        • Diego Trueba

          Yeah why not. So you could switch between the value set with the wheel and the one set in the menu.

  • Brennan McKissick

    Hold on, what lens is that? It says E46 and ASPH but it’s not a 35/50 Summilux…Did they redesign the 50mm Summicron and are going to announce it as well?

  • Stevie Jay Elmm

    For those who shoot Leica digital how is the build quality. Stupid question I know but do they still have this feeling of craft in your hand.

    • Ric Ricard

      Both my M9 and (recently sold) M240 felt beautiful in my hand. Both a durable and well built. I’ve dropped them, banged them and abused them and they continue to work great. My M240 never even went out of rangefinder alignment. That said, it is a good idea once a year or so to send it in for rangefinder adjustment.

      • Brennan McKissick

        You can do the rangefinder adjustment at home if you need to. I wouldn’t send my camera in just for that.

        • Ric Ricard

          No one has ever posted clear instructions online of how to do that. There’s this one really bad drawing (?!?!?!?) on the Leica User Forum FAQ page that is supposed to help, but I personally find it useless. Leave it to old school Leica users to provide a drawing rather than a computer generated image or just a a simple video to explain how to do it 😉

    • Brennan McKissick

      They feel great is the short answer.

    • Kevin

      I shot with the Fuji X-pro1 and X-Pro2 since the release. I Purchased a M-P240 a few months ago and i can confidently say that the build quality is top notch. It actually makes the Fuji’s feel like toys if you hold both at the same time.
      Definitely world class craft.

      • This is my experience. The M 240 is a solid piece of metal that feels very sturdy. The X100s I had feels like plastic in comparison.

    • Eduardo de Francisco

      I own an M6, M9 and Fuji X-100S. The best built is, by far, the M6. Then M9 (the one I use most) and X100S. These two are not that different, the Fuji being smaller and lighter. I think those who think the digital Leicas are as well built as the film ones are kidding themselves.

      • What do you mean when you say the digital M’s are not as well built at the film M’s? Owning and M6, several M2’s and MP, my M-E and 262 seemed as solid as those cameras. Are you referring to electronic failures?

        • Eduardo de Francisco

          That’s certainly one part of the issue: Leica has had problems with sensors and firmware, for example. But also the mechanical parts of the digital Ms have not been, in my experience, as reliable as the film ones. The shutter gets stuck more easily, the white paint in the buttons comes off more easily… I don’t have the feeling that digital Ms are built for a lifetime. And I’m not confident the M9 will outlast the Fuji X100S.

      • maralatho

        This doesn’t match my experience. The Fujis, fine cameras, feel relatively tinny and cheap to me, and the M9 felt noticeably less solid than my 240. Never tried an M6.

    • CHD

      Absolutely. The M cameras are top notch in fit and finish. Leica is totally overpriced but much of what you are paying or is the build quality…which is second to none.

  • sperdynamite

    2gb of memory is no replacement for 2 card slots.

    • Ric Ricard

      I suspect they mean 2 Gig buffer, similar to that of the M-P.

  • eric

    i think the coolest feature is being able to transfer raw files via wifi…cameras are finally catching up to real world workflow. being able to shoot, upload, and edit on my phone or tablet is perfect.

    • stevo

      You sure it can transfer raws? I would have thought it was just jpegs?

      • eric

        thats what it says above…raw dng’s can be transfered over wifi.

      • Kenneth Johansen

        Had been strange if it was not possible.

    • Max

      Just FYI, you can do the same with Eye-Fi cards and M240. There is even a rubber ‘door’ under the sd card on the bottom plate to block the signal less. That’s how I use m240.

  • abortabort

    So does this have a real base ISO of 100?

    • i know.. i thought it was supposed to be a base of 50

    • ISO dial in the image shows 100 as the base ISO.

  • Eduardo de Francisco

    It can’t be slimmer. It just can’t. The distance from the back of the lens to sensor needs to be the same in order to be able to use M lenses.

    • Brennan McKissick

      The body is slimmer, the lens sits on a platform.

    • sperdynamite

      Leica solved this with a pedestal lens mount. What I don’t understand is that no-one seems to realize that if the sensor (which doesn’t sit directly upon the back of the camera) is shifted backwards, then the camera could be made slimmer. If the electronics necessary for the screen and sensor assembly get smaller, as electronics often do, then you can indeed make a much smaller M.

      • Mountainous Man

        That’s what Sony did with the RX1. They created a custom assembly behind the sensor to house the heat sink, LCD electronics, etc. That let them get the sensor closer to the rear of the camera.

        • maralatho

          Maybe the rangefinder mechanism complicates the issue for Leica. The Sony doesn’t have that problem.

          • Brennan McKissick

            I was thinking this as well. The RF assembly is going to take up more space than an EVF.

  • Ryan Naval

    sooo anyone want to sell me their 240?

    • I’ll sell you mine if you’re serious 😀

    • Kev

      Me too!

  • very cool.. i don’t think the performance will be worlds apart from the m240.. it’s appears mainly a design and handling thing.. if you want that slightly slimmer body, direct ISO dial, and boost to the processor… I do like how the rear is further simplified with less buttons.. but, other than those things, I feel you might do just as well and not even be that far off with the M240 for what will soon to be less $$ for mostly the same performing camera. Can’t really lose or be upset with either an M240 or M10.

  • How Leica justifies the price in 2017. There’s nothing in this toy that could be expensive. I bet the margin on this is ridiculous. Greedy toy maker.

    • CHD

      Well…..I agree that it is totally overpriced given the release of the X1D and the GFX….but i would hardly call the M10 a ‘toy’.

  • Tim Rule

    What is the small button on the bottom left side for?

  • Mark

    My precioussssss…..

  • Hollis Duncan

    The first time I saw an Android phone it screamed iPhone, and when Apple launches a new phone the field scurries to copy it.

    So why isn’t anyone offering a rangefinder alternative for half the price of Leica? And I’m not talking about Fuji but rather a real full frame rangefinder.

    The technology already exists couldn’t Zeiss, Mamiya, Epson, or Nikon/Sony/Fuji/Canon offer this? Part of the reason Leica can charge such a premium is because the M is the only player in the game. Am I drastically underestimating the rangefinder niche?

    • Tapper

      I think there may be an untapped niche for what you suggest. But, I don’t see any of the big players filling it. Fuji is the closest thing right now, and as someone who can’t justify a Leica M for myself, Fuji is probably what I will buy to have a rangefinder-ish experience (yes, I do know it’s not exactly the same).

      • Hollis Duncan

        Fuji’s VF is a turnoff whereas Leica’s is stunning, I hear you though. I’m gobsmacked someone like Mamiya with a history of killer cameras doesn’t offer a solid ff rangefinder for $2-3k.

        • Tapper

          Well, Fujis do offer some nice things Leica doesn’t. I’m considering the new X100F since I’ve been wanting a small rangefinder-ish camera with 35mm FOV prime, and Fuji is affordable compared to Leica. I’ve played with an X100T a bit and it was rather nice, I thought. I could watch people outside the frame lines and time my shutter release as they entered. It’s that sort of rangefinder-ish behavior that interests me compared to purely EVF or SLR cameras where you only see within the frame through the camera. I’m sure a digital M is much nicer to use, but it’s just too costly for me.

    • It would be nice if other mfg’s would consider a decent real rangefinder option.

      I doubt this will happen, but I wish Epson, or better yet, Voigtlander, would make a digital rangefinder… actually, another new digital rangefinder. The R-D1 was actually pretty cool and actually the first m-mount digital rangefinder even before the M8, if I’m not mistaken. Based off of the Voigtlander Bessa R series, it had really cool analog controls and displays.. even a faux film advance lever to ready for the next shot. It had a 6mp CCD APS-C Sensor, much like the M8 (but m8 had 10mp). I think the accuracy wasn’t as good because the base length was shorter, but who knows?.. if they updated for 2018 or if and whenever, that could potentially be improved in a remake of the R-D1.

      An updated R-D1 with full frame and m-mount would be a pretty fascinating proposition, imho.

      I can’t say it could be a genuine Leica replacement or substitute, c’mon, right?.. but, at least it could be a more than decent alternative to the limited true rangefinder options that area available these days.

      Even Canon and Nikon had their rangefinder days.. but, I don’t see them ever returning back to them, though, in new digital format.

  • Don Manson

    The cameras in these photos don’t have the plastic inserts above the strap lugs to protect the top plate. I wonder if they will be present in production versions?

  • Tapper

    This M looks amazing IMO. I can’t justify such an expense, since I’m just an enthusiast and not wealthy, but I look forward to reading about this camera and seeing what lucky owners think of it. I have tried a Leica rangefinder for a short time in the past (an old film model, and not my own), so I know how good and different they feel to use, and it’s not something you forget. Beautiful and fun to use cameras for sure.

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