Leica Rumors recap: new Noctilux lens and TL camera

A quick recap of the latest Leica rumors:

New Noctilux

The latest rumors about a new Leica Noctilux M 75mm f/1.25 ASPH lens were a bit strange: the actual wording of the leaked document was "NOCTILUX-M 75" and we all just assumed that this will be a new Noctilux M 75mm f/1.25 ASPH lens. I received some additional information on the possible scenarios here:

New Leica TL camera

A new Leica camera under the code name 5370 was already registered with different government agencies. Here is what to expect based on information I received recently:

  • Interchangeable lens camera with TL mount
  • Small and compact size (see dimensions here)
  • Integrated EVF (something like the Leica Q, but with APS-C sensor and TL mount)
  • The sensor will not be 16MP (most likely 24MP)
  • Code name "Clooney"
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  • Mistral75

    Are you certain that the rumoured Summilux 75mm and Noctilux 90mm lenses are M mount lenses and not L mount ones?

    • No, I am not sure, but the filing text was “NOCTILUX-M 75”.

      • Mistral75

        Indeed but ut this one would be the Noctilux-M 50mm limited edition, wouldn’t it? if the “new” Noctilux is a 90mm.

        • maybe 75 is an anniversary of some sort, not a focal length

    • Bo Dez

      Or perhaps an S lens.

      • Mistral75

        I doubt it. No S lens is brighter than a Summicron (100mm) and most S lenses are Summarits and Elmarits, therefore a Summilux-S might be envisaged but a Noctilux-S…

        • Bo Dez

          Yeah but maybe that’s the reason it may happen – people having been asking for one for ages because the 100mm Summicron is nice and all but it’s still not the same as a Noctilux in its rendering. I would agree that a Summilux, first, would be more logical but hey, it’s Leica. They are full of surprises. Also 1.25 is not far off a Summilux anyway. A 90mm Noctilux makes more sense on an S than it does on smaller sensor.

  • Florian

    i think the possibility of a noctilux 90 is low. imagine how large even the 90 summicron is. The aperture must be greater than 1.4 otherwise it would be called summilux. even a 90mm summilux would be maybe 700g or so… just speculating, but it sounds a bit unrealistic.
    a faster 75mm sounds more realistic.

    • I agree, also focusing a 90mm Noctilux will not be easy. It’s all rumors and speculations at that point, but something new related to Noctilux is coming.

    • DouglasGottlieb

      I love 75mm focal length. A Noctilux 75 would be amazing.

  • DouglasGottlieb

    A TL with an integrated EVF will be great.

    • soundimageplus

      I agree. Much as I love my T’s (I have two) and have used them extensively for my Stock Photography work, I too would love an update that has a built in EVF. There are also a few things that need to be ‘improved’.

      The Sony 16MP sensor in the T’s doesn’t allow focus peaking and manual focusing is not as as good as it could be with the T’s. So peaking needs to be included (and hopefully will be). The video is also not great. So, if we get 24MP, 4K video, focus peaking and faster AF then the ‘new’ TL could be excellent.

      What I don’t want to see is any change to the size, weight and design and particularly that incredible view screen. Mirrorless cameras are getting bigger and heavier and the T / TL is one of the smallest and lightest out there. I really do hope that Leica don’t mess with the design or that beautiful finish.

      Finally, if anyone from Leica is reading this, what would be great is a battery grip for more power and a better shooting experience. Then it really would be the classiest APC-S EVIL.

      • DouglasGottlieb

        I’d thought Leica used someone other than Sony for sensors. But if SONY, then updating to their 24mp BSI with phase detect would make this a major upgrade for the T series. A6500 level AF speed on a Leica would be amazing. I hope they do it.

        • El Aura

          Leica has used non-Sony sensors in all its M models, the S line and its other two FF (24×36 mm) products, the SL and Q. But it is believed that all APS-C models, ie, the three X models (plus X-Vario and X-U), and the T(L) use Sony sensors

          • DouglasGottlieb

            Good to know. SONY sensors seem to be well ahead of the pack. If only their usability were as good

    • Yes, basically a smaller Q. The main change is hopefully a new sensor. The last TL that was announced a few months ago still had 16MP…

      • Seven_Spades

        I hope this rumour is true. It has been a long time coming. Was seriously thinking of a Fuji as I don’t think I can hold out much longer.

  • Floyd Summerhayes

    I hope with a built in evf that allow for low down work especially with the new macro. I’d like to see a cable release and proper bulb mode.

  • ZMWT

    Glad the new TL is not codenamed ‘cheese’.
    So, say ‘clooney’ and press the shutter release button .. that sounds better; avoids the need to Photoshop too many teeth 🙂

  • Bo Dez

    Very excited to see what materialises in terms of one or more new Noctilux.

  • Bo Dez

    The focal length of the Noctilux lenses has me wondering if one might be for the S.

  • andre_

    I’m not excited for a long Noctilux in M-mount, but only because there’s no M with a 0.85X or greater viewfinder. Yet. 🙁
    With no such viewfinder, the rangefinder would struggle too much for a satisfactory experience.

    Until then, I keep using my A7 for the 90mm. 😉

    Why no 35mm Noctilux?
    It’d be the only reason to change my Summilux FLE. 🙂

  • Mistral75

    Leica’s “Noctilux-M 1:1.25 / 75 Asph.” will be released this year and it’s probably the next M lens to be announced.


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